If I switch from orchestral to chamber to solo, etc. Hi Konrad: I always thought that Violins 1 and Violins 2 should sound the same. I made the mistake of buying the libraries without having a proper computer setup and definitely regretted it. This could be some fantastic and timely advice. The close mics sound cool sometimes but I seldom use them.
You just need to experiment with them. I am a songwriter and am usually anxious to get the parts down, not spend hours trying to go through patches. I know people will say that errors are realistic. A trumpet patch generally doesn't take long but a string patch will take a little time. A director asked me once if I had recorded a real orchestra. But I've been reading a bit online and apparently this thing is a system killer. I go back and forth on that issue.
I don't have Vienna Ensemble Pro and am ashamed to admit I don't even know the purpose of Ensemble. We are talking about strings, but the same applies to winds. With Dimension Strings, you can keep the parts perfect or select a degree of humanization. It is a great product that I have put on records and will continue to use. Well, I didn't install it on my harddrive, I got the complete composer thing picking the ones I want, so I got an external in the mail with everything on it. I especially appreciate the consistency. Vienna is more pristine which makes it a bit colder but more accurate sounding.
Hollywood does a keyswitch patch, but it has a limited number of articulations basically up bow, down bow, round robin, trill, and tremelo. My answer is that errors are the reason God put erase and undo buttons on recorders. Do you own Vienna Ensemble Pro 5, and do you use it with Sonar?. How do you deal with the 600gb of space being taken up? I have the Vienna Pro Player paid and the free version of Vienna Ensemble. Hollywood Strings Hollywood Strings Full Crack is one of the most ambitious and detailed string orchestra libraries to date. I don't find Hollywood's second violins to sound different enough from 1st violins to matter; however, that does avoid the issue of phasing if the parts cross the same note or play a unison line. In a recent record, I used Orchestral Violins for both 1st and 2nd, but then pasted in a single line using Chamber as 2nds when the parts were in unison.
I having a conversation about the implementation or lack thereof of trills in Dimension Strings. Pretty good for some generic things, but it is a really memory hog if all you want for legato is round robins. Basically, when Hollywood is good, it's great. The question is whether that is enough of an issue to warrant all the extra memory for loading second violins. I'm not quite sure what to do here.
Experiences with Hollywood Strings For background, I have all the Vienna Special Editions which cover Orchestral, Chamber, and Solo Strings with winds and percussion and a limited set of articulations for Appassionata strings. And the only reason they have 2 sections is to avoid phasing when you are only 2 notes of the same note, as when you start out with the same note and then to separate directions after that, as in a typical classical orchestra. A writer I produce just sent me a text to say he had tears in his eyes after listening to the orchestration I added to his track using Hollywood. It annoys me to hear the same sour note every time I press a key that is critical to the song. Lat year I bought EastWest Hollywood Strings Diamond Edition. Vienna is simple to use, by the way. Hollywood does sound great, and I agree that the extra mic positions in retrospect were probably not worth the cost.
The legato violas are exquisite once you figure them out! That being said, if you bought them now you would be disappointed. One rock group I produce does pretty epic rock opera stuff that I orchestrate for them. Great guys on that forum but I think they got the wrong idea I was complaining about their product, when, in fact, I love Vienna. No disrespect to Hollywood, though. I basically use them for big, lush orchestral sections. Konrad Current album and more: Sonar X1d Producer.
The main failure I have had with Vienna is getting a string quartet to sound right using the Solo Strings; but that may be my fault as an arranger. With Vienna, I load a matrix example: Orchestral Violins and use keyswitches and controllers to select the articulation. I have to load them one at a time and try them. With Hollywood, I have to load each articulation e. Vienna Ensemble is a great way to set up a slave machine. I am quite surprised, however, that you think Vienna does not sound good. I'll have to give Dimension Strings another try, I didn't give them a fair shot.
This is definitely what I most identify with. I have Vienna Dimension Strings which so far includes violins and cellos. I've used Hollywood on some projects recently, and wonder if I am doing something wrong because it is really hard to use. Maybe I am lazy, but Hollywood is a lot of work. I can change from Triple Horn to Vienna Horn, or from Oboe D'Amour to French Oboe without even editing the sequence.